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Lygtais ir i trumpa ejo tiltai su perdavimu 5,285.Jei komplektacija GL arba GLX,tai gamykliskai statesi tiltai su perdavimu - dviduris 4,625,keturduris - 4,875.Jei komplektacija GLS,tai i dviduri ejo 4,625 arba 4,875,o i keturduri 4,875 arba 5,285.Bet aisku perkant srote,reikia paciam pasiskaiciuoti perdavimo skaiciu.

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Idomu, kokie perdavimai eina i MPI tiltus? Kurie skaitosi leciausi? Ar imanoma kaip nors nustatyt perdavima neardant tilto? Gal is vin imanoma issifruot? Kazkaip vienareiksmiskai truksta galios pas mane. Turiu donora idomu koks ten perdavimas. Kazi HG ir MP tiltu viduriai vienodi? Nes viso tilto permest negaliu MPI linges, pas mane spiruokles. Laukiu pamastymu.. su 29" lupo kaip zveris, o su 33" nuo 3 begio dusuliukas ziaurus. Nuvaziavus nuo kelio su paletintoju aisku eina noemaliai, bet kartais ir po Vilniu reikia pasimalt..

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Pas pirma padzera buvo tiltai su perdavimu 4,63 ;4,87;5,28.Leciausi skaitosi 5,28.Pas galoperi irgi tokie patys tiltu perdavimai.Kad nustatyt perdavima,pasikeli masinos galine dali,ant rato is vidines puses su kreida brezi bruksni,suki uz kardano kol ratas apsisuks 10 kartu,kardano apsisukimu skaiciu dalini is rato apsisukimo skaiciaus ir daugini is 2.Jei tiltas su LSD is 2 dauginti nereikia.Jei stovi pora su perdavimu 4,63 tai su 33 ir bus konkretus dusulys,geriausia butu su perdavimu 5,28.Ar eitu viduriai is pajero nezinau,bet lygtais neina ju permest.Zinau,tik kad eina pastatyt antro pajero tilta,tada islosi diskinius stabdzius vietoj bugnu.

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Ar buvo kazkurie perdavimai montuojami su tam tikru motoru? Ar viskas buvo komplektuojama na ura? Pvz. jeigu 3.0 tai perdavimas butinai 4.87 ar nelabai?

 

Dar tiesa butu idomu isgirst variklio sukius prie 100km/h su 5.28 perdavimu ar yra is forumieciu kas tokius letus tiltus turi?

Nes trasoj vikstiek norisi vaziuot apie 100km/h daugiau man nereikia, bet maziau irgi, nes negaliu pakest, kai mane furos lenkia..galiu vaziuot jai ispaskos, bet kad tik nelenktu, matyt dar jaunas tuo klausimu.

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Plastic,pasiskaiciuok koks pas tave tiltu perdavimas.O su reduktoriaus perdavimu 5,285 ir su 33 ratais,vaziuojant ant 100km/h variklio apsukos bus apie 2900,ant 120km/h apsukos apie 3500.Na o jeigu uzdesi kokius 235/75R15 ratus,vaziuojant 120km/h apsukos jau bus apie 4000.

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Ar buvo kazkurie perdavimai montuojami su tam tikru motoru? Ar viskas buvo komplektuojama na ura? Pvz. jeigu 3.0 tai perdavimas butinai 4.87 ar nelabai?

 

 

Atnaujinsiu tema. MP1 yra trijų skirtingų perdavimų tiltai  4,625 ;4,875;5,28. Lėčiausi skaitosi 5,28. Mastau susidėti lėtesnius tiltus, nes db pas mane tiltai stovi su perdavimu 4,625. Galoperio irgi tokie pat perdavimai tiltu. Norėtųsi daugiau galios kai sublokuoju abu tiltus.

Internete pavyko rasto tokius duomenis:

Axle Data

MP Gen 1

2.6, 2.3TD, 2.5TD & 2.5TDI (some) :-

front axle = 25 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 7.25" diameter (low pinion)

front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 7.25" diameter (low pinion from an L300)

rear axle = 28 spline, 30.5mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter

3.0V6 :-

front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter (low pinion)

rear axle = 28 spline, 30.5mm diameter, diff = 9" diameter

Diff ratio and T/case & Final Drive Ratio's

Gen 1

2.3 TD = 4.875, 5.29

2.6 / 2.5 TD = 4.625, 4.875

2.5 TDI = 4.625, 4.875

3.0 V6 = 4.625, 4.875

Kazin ar yra tekę kam matyti MP 2,3 TD ant Lietuvos? Nes suprantu, kad uos lėčiausi tiltai.

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Atnaujinsiu tema. MP1 yra trijų skirtingų perdavimų tiltai  4,625 ;4,875;5,28. Lėčiausi skaitosi 5,28. Mastau susidėti lėtesnius tiltus, nes db pas mane tiltai stovi su perdavimu 4,625. Galoperio irgi tokie pat perdavimai tiltu. Norėtųsi daugiau galios kai sublokuoju abu tiltus.

Internete pavyko rasto tokius duomenis:

Axle Data

MP Gen 1

2.6, 2.3TD, 2.5TD & 2.5TDI (some) :-

front axle = 25 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 7.25" diameter (low pinion)

front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 7.25" diameter (low pinion from an L300)

rear axle = 28 spline, 30.5mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter

3.0V6 :-

front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter (low pinion)

rear axle = 28 spline, 30.5mm diameter, diff = 9" diameter

Diff ratio and T/case & Final Drive Ratio's

Gen 1

2.3 TD = 4.875, 5.29

2.6 / 2.5 TD = 4.625, 4.875

2.5 TDI = 4.625, 4.875

3.0 V6 = 4.625, 4.875

Kazin ar yra tekę kam matyti MP 2,3 TD ant Lietuvos? Nes suprantu, kad uos lėčiausi tiltai.

Na pas pirmuką lėčiausi buvo ant 2.3 td, bet gal išeina kažką  sulipdyti iš antros kartos pajero, ten pas 2.5 td ėjo 5.29 perdavimas.

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Yra dalis tiesos Rolandai tavo pasakyme, bet pas 2,5 TDI MPII perdavimas tiltų gali būti ir 4,875. Toks perdavimas kiek sugebėjau rasti būna su automatine pavarų dėže.

 

T/case & Final Drive Ratio's (T/case - šiuo atveju šifruojasi kaip "transfer cas", lietuviškai tai būtų paskirstymo dėžė). SWB - Short weel base (tumpas 2/3 duru kebulas); LWB - Long weel base (ilgas 4/5 duru kebulas).
Gen 1

NA model Jan 83-Nov 84
swb 2.6 petrol & 2.3TD 5sp (KM145) only
Hi-roof lwb introduced in May 84 with 2.6 petrol & 2.3TD

NB model Nov 84-Nov 85
same variants as above except 2.3TD not available with swb

NC model Nov 85-Oct 86
same variants as above except hi-roof lwb is replaced with low-roof version

ND model Oct 86-Oct 87
swb 2.6 petrol 5sp (KM145)
lwb 2.6 petrol & 2.5TD 5sp (KM145)
Optional non lock up 4sp auto (KM14 for 2.6 petrol

NE model Oct 87-Sept 88
same variants as above
2.6 ***** petrol replaced with improved locally Oz made Astron 2 versions

NF model Sept 88-Sept 89
same variants as above
3.0 V6 introduced for lwb with 5sp (V5MT1) or 4sp auto (KM14
3 link coil spring rear and rear disc brakes

NG model Sept 89-Apr 91
same variants as above except KM148 replaced with lock up 4sp V4AW2
2.5TD was intercooled in 1990

Gen 2

NH model Apr 91-Nov 93
swb 2.6 petrol 5sp (V5M21) leaf springs 3.0 V6 5sp (V5MT1) rear coils
lwb 2.6 petrol 5sp (V5M21) leaf springs 2.5TD 5sp (V5M21) leaf springs 2.5TDI 5sp (V5MT1) rear coils 3.0 V6 5sp (V5MT1) or 4sp auto (V4AW2) rear coils

NJ model Nov 93-Mar 97
rear leaf springs dropped everything now 3 link coils
swb 3.0 V6 5sp (V5MT1) or 4sp auto (V4AW2)
lwb 2.8D 5sp (V5M21) 2.8TDI 5sp (V5M31) 3.0 V6 5sp (V5MT1) or 4 sp auto (V4AW2)
Luxury Exceed model 3.5 DOHC V6 lwb 4 sp auto (V4AW3)
Sep 95 3.5 DOHC V6 made standard across range (3.0 V6 dropped)

NK model Mar 97-Oct 97
swb 3.5 DOHC V6 5sp (V5M31) or 4sp auto (V4AW3)
lwb 2.8TDI 5sp (V5M31) 3.5 DOHC V6 5sp (V5M31) or 4sp auto (V4AW3)

NL model Oct 97-Jul 00 (known as Gen 2.5 in US)
swb same as NK
lwb same as NK except 3.5 DOHC V6 replaced with 3.5 SOHC V6

Gen 3
NM model Jul 00-Oct 02 (monocoque body / IRS)
swb dropped from range
lwb 2.8TDI 5sp (V5M31) 3.5 SOHC V6 5sp (V5M31) or new 5sp tiptronic auto (V5A51 Invecs 2)
Aug 02 3.2 DID introduced (2.8TDI dropped)

NP model Oct 02-
traction / stability control introduced
lwb 3.5 SOHC V6 5sp (V5M31) or 5sp auto (V5A51) 3.2 DID 5sp (V5M31) or 5sp auto (V5A51)
Oct 03 3.8 SOHC introduced only with 5sp auto (V5A51)
Jan 05 MATT (Mitsu All Terrain Technology) introduced across model range

Engine Power Outputs

Gen 1

2.6 ***** (4G54) = 76Kw 192Nm
2.6 Oz (4G54) = 79Kw 196Nm
2.3TD (4D55T) = 62Kw 188Nm
3.0 V6 (6G72) = 105Kw 228Nm
2.5TD (4D56T) = 62Kw 201Nm
2.5TDI (4D56TI) = 70Kw 240Nm

Gen 2

2.6 Oz (4G54) = 79Kw 196Nm
3.0 V6 (6G72) = 109Kw 234Nm
2.5TDI (4D56TI) = 73Kw 240Nm
2.8D (4M40) = 71Kw 198Nm
2.8TDI (4M40) = 92Kw 292Nm
3.5 DOHC V6 (6G74) = 153Kw 300Nm
3.5 SOHC V6 (6G74) 140Kw 303Nm

Gen 3

2.8TDI (4M40) = 92Kw 292Nm
3.5 SOHC V6 (6G74) = 140Kw 303Nm
3.2 DID (4M41) = 121Kw 373Nm
3.8 SOHC V6 (6G75) = 150Kw 314Nm

T/case & Final Drive Ratio's

Gen 1

2.3TD = 4.875, 5.29
2.6 / 2.5TD = 4.625, 4.875
2.5TDI = 4.625, 4.875
3.0 V6 = 4.625, 4.875
t/case = 1.944:1 low range for 2.6, 2.3TD & 2.5TD, 1.925:1 for 3.0 V6

Gen 2

2.6 = 4.875
2.5TD & 2.5TDI = 4.875, 5.29
3.0 V6 = 4.625, 4.875
2.8D = 4.875
2.8TDI = 4.90
3.5 DOHC V6 = 4.636
t/case = 1.925:1 low range for 2.6, 2.5TD, 2.5TDI & 3.0 V6, 1.90:1 for 2.8TDI & 3.5 DOHC V6

Gen 3

2.8TDI = 4.90 5sp man
3.2 DID = 3.90 5sp auto or 4.10 for 5sp man
3.5 SOHC V6 = 4.30 5sp man & 5sp auto
3.8 SOHC V6 = 4.30 5sp auto
t/case = 1.90:1 for all

Axle Data

Gen 1

2.6, 2.3TD, 2.5TD & 2.5TDI (some) :-
front axle = 25 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 7.25" diameter (low pinion)
rear axle = 28 spline, 30.5mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter
3.0V6 :-
front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter (low pinion)
rear axle = 28 spline, 30.5mm diameter, diff = 9" diameter

Gen 2

3.0V6 :-
same as Gen 1 except for NH & NJ auto has 7.25" diameter front diff (high pinion) NH & NJ 5sp man has 8" diameter front diff (high pinion)
2.5TDI :-
same as NH & NJ auto
3.5V6 & 2.8TDI :-
front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter (high pinion)
rear axle = 31 spline, 33.5mm diameter, diff = 9.5" diameter

Gen 3

3.5V6, 2.8TDI, 3.2DID, 3.8V6
front axle = 28 spline, 29mm diameter, diff = 8" diameter (high pinion)
rear axle = 33 spline, 36mm diameter, diff = 9.5" diameter

Note :- Mitsu factory Aisin manual hubs (found on some models - Gen 1 or Gen 2 base models & Tritons) are interchangeable and will retrofit to all Gen 2 models with super select.
These will not fit to a Gen 3 model as they run solid one piece hub flanges (non-removable).

Brake Data

Gen 1

swb
front = NA-ND 255mm vented discs (20mm thick) single piston calipers (53.97mm pistons)
front = NE-NG 258mm vented discs (22mm thick) single piston calipers (57.15mm pistons)
rear = NA-ND 254mm drums (20.64mm wheel cylinder)
rear = NE-NG 254mm drums (22.23mm wheel cylinder)
lwb
front = NA-NE 275mm vented discs (20mm thick) single piston calipers (57.15mm pistons)
front = NF-NG (3.0V6) 276mm vented discs (22mm thick) twin piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)
rear = drums NA-ND same as swb, NE-NG same as swb
rear = NF-NG (3.0V6) 315mm solid discs (18mm thick) single piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)

Gen 2

front = NH-NJ (3.0V6) 276mm vented discs (24mm thick) twin piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)
front = NJ-NL (3.5V6) 276mm vented discs (27mm thick) twin piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)
front = NK & NL GLS only 314mm vented discs (24mm thick) twin piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)
rear = NH-NL 315mm solid discs (18mm thick) single piston calipers (42.8mm pistons)
Note :- NH GL base models had rear drum brakes same as Gen 1 NE-NG
Also NK & NL GLS models have to run 16" rims to clear the bigger front rotors.

Gen 3

front = NM-NP 290mm vented discs (26mm thick) twin piston calipers (45.4mm pistons)
rear = NM-NP 300mm vented discs (22mm thick) single piston calipers (44.5mm pistons)

 

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